似鱼飞鱼 发表于 2025-6-13 08:11:14

【AI跑图探究】论坛AI跑不出来想要的图?我们一步一步的试出来!

本帖最后由 似鱼飞鱼 于 2025-6-13 08:13 编辑


  最近论坛跑出来的的图过于单调?
  到底是AI坏了,还是我们给他调教坏了?
  怎么样才能让AI听话呢?

  老实说我也不知道,我开了一个实验贴,开始实验如何才能出自己想要的图。

  我会把结论写在2楼,实验过程从3楼开始。


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经常跑图的小伙伴已经发现了最近AI你所想跑的图就没几个正常的


似鱼飞鱼 发表于 2025-6-13 08:11:32

本帖最后由 似鱼飞鱼 于 2025-6-13 09:43 编辑

实验结果

短期结论:

AI你所想创作界面,角色权重0.9以上,迭代步数45步以上,
关键词让AI帮忙写,还是能出好图的。

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似鱼飞鱼 发表于 2025-6-13 08:22:11

实验1:角色权重到底设置多少比较好




夏天,小桥,流水,落叶,一个美丽的小女孩,坐在小溪旁边洗脚


让我们从角色权重0.7开始尝试
看看在0.7的权重下,我们能跑出什么图来



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结论:角色权重0.7的情况下,小桥、洗脚关键字没有体现出来,角色基本上不像英女侠,AI自行发挥的太多太多。
动作完全没有呈现出来,基本上都是站姿。但,并不是跑不出来背景,绝大多数都是有背景的。

似鱼飞鱼 发表于 2025-6-13 08:27:38

本帖最后由 似鱼飞鱼 于 2025-6-13 08:38 编辑



接下来,调整关键字,尽量规避AI可能不认识的词,
改成桥、小河、光着脚丫、坐在小河边
同时,角色权重改成了0.8

夏天,桥,小河,树林,天空飘落落叶,一个美丽的小女孩,坐在光着脚,坐在小河边

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权重0.8,角色全面崩盘的开始,跑不出来任何想要的东西,桥、小河、全都没有为了公平,我们改回原来的关键词。
再跑8张

夏天,小桥,流水,落叶,一个美丽的小女孩,坐在小溪旁边洗脚


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用回原来的关键词,水的场景再次出来了,但是仍然不是我们要的图短期结论:不同关键词能否出图的几率是不一样的,有一些关键词看似正常,实则无法出图。
而0.7、0.8的角色权重看起来角色并没有太多变化,可能0.8更像英女侠一点

似鱼飞鱼 发表于 2025-6-13 08:45:52



同一套关键字,我们角色权重0.9,感受一下有没有变化。


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权重0.9,英女侠开始长得很像我们喂给他的模型,但是我们要的图还是跑不出来,可能跟后面的,迭代步数有关系。
我们先把权重测试完成,回头再测试迭代步数。

似鱼飞鱼 发表于 2025-6-13 08:50:54




权重改为1,按道理应该出现完全符合模型的英女侠,
让我们试试看


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头发脸型更像英女侠了让我们看看1.1到底是什么


似鱼飞鱼 发表于 2025-6-13 09:02:20



角色权重到了1.1 是不是会更加像模型,动作会更加死板没有变化?


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老实说,角色权重真的很英女侠,很多图都爱了爱了
但是,这也远远的脱离了我们的本意
我们要的图完全没跑出来。
那么我们使用1.1作为终极角色权重(可能会失败,理想我觉得0.9或者1.0会好一点),
然后,我们采用让迭代步数增大,看看能不能计算出来我们要的图。

似鱼飞鱼 发表于 2025-6-13 09:08:04




我们再角色权重1.1的情况下,
让迭代步数增长到35步
看看能不能出一些我们要的风景或者动作。


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迭代步数35的时候,有了一些小海边的感觉但是整体动作是出不来的。1.1限制了角色动作,没有抱有太多希望
我试着让迭代步数到45.


似鱼飞鱼 发表于 2025-6-13 09:12:36


迭代步数45,让我们看看有没有更多变化


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迭代45步之后,背景开始精美画
但是还是要不出来我们要的东西
我们继续增加迭代步数,这一次,我们增加到65

似鱼飞鱼 发表于 2025-6-13 09:32:22



迭代步数已经到了65.


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迭代步数,65和45的区别不大。感觉到了45也就够了。
下面我们开始把角色权重调整到0.9.然后迭代步数45.
开始调整关键字。

似鱼飞鱼 发表于 2025-6-13 09:41:55



我们先用人工智能帮忙改一下关键词





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实验告一段落,短期结论。
角色权重在0.9左右,随后迭代步数在45-65左右。
关键词让AI帮忙优化一下,还是能出好图的。

破茧蝶飞 发表于 2025-6-13 09:41:58

#24 赶上了直播?

似鱼飞鱼 发表于 2025-6-13 09:43:49

破茧蝶飞 发表于 2025-6-13 09:41 广东
赶上了直播?

下播了。#fyn3

白天戒掉奶茶 发表于 2025-6-13 11:01:28

好强#24

横扫一剪梅 发表于 2025-7-14 10:32:09

学到了#145#145#145
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